Marcelo Galvani

Aug 15, 2007

Free parking in malls SP

Posted by: Marcelo Galvani In: Tips | Policy

Following is the text of the email I received:

Finally a good law of the Municipality of São Paulo.
The law of free parking in malls and other establishments is already applied.
Gratuity Parking - State Law No. 1209/2004 - The cash clerk knows, but only if you will demand their rights.

It is necessary for the purchase price is more than 10 times the value of the machine.
Example: if the value of parking is $ 3.00 you will need to spend at least $ 30.00 with anything - food, clothes, piece, etc.. - At the mall, and present the coupon box on the parking tax.
They will stamp and validate the ticket, without you having to pay anything more.

Spread the information, it is Law (also appeared in the newspaper the Globe).

Works the same, but it is clear that the malls will not advertise it.

Visit this link and print, so there will be no denying the gratuity.

But this is not so, if we look at the link mentioned (content copied below) we see that it was the time of a bill, which was subsequently vetoed.

Below the contents of the draft law and the reason for his veto. Both the extracted link sent by Oswaldo in 21/mar/08.

The following was extracted from the site of the city of Sao Paulo
"BILL 454/07 - CAMERA" Provides for the permanent collection of vehicles parked in the shopping malls, hypermarkets and congeners and other measures.

The MUNICIPALITY OF SAO PAULO DECREES:

Article 1. Are exempted from payment for the use of parking in shopping centers, supermarkets and the like installed in São Paulo, customers who prove expenditure of at least ten times the amount of that charge.

Sole Paragraph The gratuity referred to in the caption will be effective only upon submission of invoices that are dated from the day on which the customer makes the election to the gratuity.

Article 2. The duration of the vehicle in the parking lot of the establishments mentioned in Article 1, for up to fifteen minutes, should be free.

Article 3. The benefit under this Act may only be granted to the customer who stay for a maximum of four (4) hours inside the shopping malls, hypermarkets or similar.

§ 1. The residence time of the vehicle should be evidenced by the issuance of a document when entering the parking lot.

§ 2. If the customer exceeds the allotted time for the grant of gratuity under Article 3, shall pay the excess amount in accordance with the fee schedule, normally used by the establishment.

Article 4. Are the shopping malls and hypermarkets congeners required to disclose the contents of this law by putting up posters in their premises.

Article 5. This Act shall come into force on the date of its publication. Revokes the context requires otherwise.

Session Room on June 21, 2007. The Committees concerned. "

REASONS VETOProjeto Law No 454/07

ATL Letter No. 51, February 8, 2008

Ref: Letter No. PMS-23 0055/2008

President

I refer to the letter referenced, by which Your Excellency sent to the penalty certified copy of the law enacted by this egregious Board at its meeting on 18 December 2007 concerning the Draft Law No. 454/07, authored by Councilman Edivaldo estimated, which provides for the collection vehicle to remain parked in the shopping malls, supermarkets and the like.

The measure aims to relieve customers of the establishments mentioned payment for the use of the parking lot when the corresponding expenditure to demonstrate at least ten times the amount of that charge. Furthermore, it determines that the stay for up to fifteen minutes should be free and that the benefit may only be granted to the client to remain in place for a maximum of four (4) hours.

Despite its laudable goals, the project can not be passed into law as unconstitutional, imposing a total ban on bringing, for the following reasons adduced.

Indeed, its content does not fall within the orbit of municipal jurisdiction. Article 24, paragraph I of the Constitution empowers only the Union, the States and the Federal District to legislate concurrently on economic law, not fitting the municipality, therefore, disciplinary matters relating to prices subject to private enterprise.

The issue is that the text adopted is limited, even in the sphere of civil law, and, more specifically, the right of ownership, these materials also legislative authority of the Federal Union (Article 22, paragraph I of the Constitution) .

In addition, the State, as normative and regulating agent of economic activity, exercise, according to the law, the functions of supervision, encouragement and planning, these functions being indicative for the private sector, as envisaged by Article 174 of the Constitutional Charter .

Given these legal rules, it appears that the City can not establish gratuitous use of parking, and shall have only the question what to insert in the peculiar local interest.

The municipal legislation may regulate the economic activities in its territory, for the observance of urban standards of hygiene and quality of life of consumers and the environment on the part of commercial establishments, industries, services and the like. It shall, in accordance with the Organic Law of São Paulo, in its article 160, "heading", to grant and renew licenses for installation and operation, set hours and working conditions, to lay restrictions on site locations in urban space but can not interfere directly in specific economic activities, in seeking to regulate the pricing policy for their establishments.

The judiciary has repeatedly struck down efforts of similar content. I cite the decision of the Supreme Court handed down in the face of the lawsuit filed in State Law No. 4711 of April 7, 1992, the Holy Spirit, which limits the value of the collection in particular areas:

"While the Union regulates the right to property and lays down substantive intervention in the economic, the other levels of government only exercise administrative policing the use of property and economic activity of individuals, in order, always, the substantive rules edited by the Union "(ADIN No. 1981-1 - Rep. Mauricio Correa Min, vu, j. 08/23/01; in the same direction ADIN No. 1472-2, Sepulveda belongs Min, vu, j. 5/9 / 02; ADIN No. 1623-7, Moreira Alves Min, vu, j. 06/25/97; ADIN No. 2448-5, Min Sydney Sanches, vm, j. 23/04/03).

In the same line of understanding, the Court of Rio de Janeiro suspended from the outset the purpose of State Law No. 4541, 2005, which regulates the charges for use of parking in shopping centers and major markets in the State of Rio de Janeiro, decision was maintained by the Superior Court, remaining suspended the application of that statute.

Thus, any host of the proposal would only create expectations that would quickly be frustrated in the courts.

It is finally noted that the bringing down of a penalty provision alone, being deprived hence the coercivity necessary to compel compliance or punish the offenders.

Therefore, I am constrained to veto the full bill passed, with the fulcrum in Article 42, § 1, of the Organic Law of São Paulo, returning the matter to the review of this illustrious House.

On occasion, I renew to Your Excellency assurances of my esteem and consideration.

Gilberto Kassab, Mayor

When Sir

ANTONIO CARLOS RODRIGUES

Worthy Mayor of Sao Paulo "


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17 Responses to "Free Parking in Malls SP"

1 | Marcelo Galvani

August 22nd, 2007 at 8:23 pm

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I received the following statement on 22/8

a. Cabral wrote:
SP is not! CALM FRIENDS!!

The law 1209/2004 is Rio and therefore the benefit is unique.

In sao paulo is not yet approved the law which is being processed in the chamber.

The project was submitted for review 21/06/07 days, give the position
now]

Bill No. 454/2007 of 21/06/2007
PROVIDES FOR THE COLLECTION OF STAY OF VEHICLES
PARKING IN SHOPPING CENTERS, hypermarkets and
Congeners, and other measures.
Author (s): Edivaldo ESTEEM
Stage of proceedings: Transmission-> Area: SGP22 Date: 06/08/2007 | Receive->
Area: JUST Date: 06/08/2007

2 | Marcelo Galvani

October 4th, 2007 at 7:54 pm

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The White Rabbit site cites this news as an example of incorrect information passed by bloggers.

I would say that the author of this article forgot to consult the right sources, as he recommends. He did not even waste time reading what I wrote, and was satisfied to have found the contents of the e-mail in the body of my post.

House blacksmith, wooden skewer.
See the article at: http://ocoelhobranco.blogspot.com/2007/08/o-estado-e-polmica-dos-blogs-tabajara.html

3 | marcus

October 5th, 2007 at 9:30 am

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I tried not to pay the parking Iguatemi this week according to the law and she said the law was repealed! Was it really? Or is that not been approved yet - depending on our Chamber will take:) - or is she still lied on their own request Shopping? Does anyone know for sure how is this law? Law print from the site of the Municipality of Sao Paulo and I will try again this weekend. Let's see what happens. Abs, Marcus

4 | Marcelo Galvani

October 5th, 2007 at 11:17 am

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Marcus,

This is a bill that has not yet been rated. In summary, it is worth.

5 | Cristiane

October 17th, 2007 at 9:57 pm

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completing .... Source: http://www.sampaonline.com.br/reportagens/estacionamentogratuitoemsaopaulo.htm

True e-mail that talks about the free parking in shopping centers in São Paulo?
August 21, 2007

An email circulating among netizens said that according to Law 1209/2004 the person who consumes in establishments shopping mall in São Paulo, an amount equal to or greater than ten times the amount payable by ticket, shall be exempt from the levy Parking.

The Division of Legal Research, Department of Information and Documentation of the Legislative Assembly of the State of São Paulo belies this information: "This law does not exist in the State of Sao Paulo" and states that "it's Bill 1209-A / 2004 converted into Law No. 4541 of 07 April 2005, the State of Rio de Janeiro. "

Was presented, yes, a bill on the subject, the Assembly proceeded to Sao Paulo, the 35/2005, then vetoed by Governor Geraldo Alckmin not that it was state competence, and recently filed.

Is processing currently in the City of St. Paul, Bill (Municipal) 454/2007, authored by Councilman Edivaldo estimated that proposes in Article Article 1, which "are exempt from the payment for the use of parking in shopping malls, supermarkets and the like installed in São Paulo, customers who prove expenditure of at least ten times the value of that recovery. "

By the Project, the gratuity shall be granted to customers who remain "for a maximum of four (4) hours inside the malls, hypermarkets or similar", provided that the customer submit invoices dated the day on which the client does election to the gratuity.

This project is under consideration of the various committees of the House, and no date for its vote

6 | rodrigo

November 7th, 2007 at 2:55 pm

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holy shit, how many customers I have already filled the bag for this shit ... and the worst are the "advocates" holy shit the guy is a lawyer and do not know the difference between law and the bill!!

7 | Cristiane

November 14th, 2007 at 10:30 am

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As a collaboration:

Law 1209/2004 mentioned above, is not law, is a bill in the State of Rio de Janeiro, transformed into state law, that of no. 4541/05, the mall where parking is free until the limit of 4 h, since the purchase is made 10 xx greater than the price of parking. Therefore, it is only for the State of Rio de Janeiro.

As for St. Paul, that there is a Bill, to no. 454/07, which is being processed in the House in Sao Paulo, or have not yet become law.

8 | Samantha

November 17th, 2007 at 1:05 am

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Yeah ... people working in the shop parking, cash, and take very brazen because the bill! it never entered into force! besides everything as we lay paraos customers or by "Educated girls who were to speak it." just that people do not know what it is they who are not updated! entering the site daily official who will see that this project was never prevailed!

9 | Drika

January 25th, 2008 at 24:06 pm

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Hi Marcelo,
Okay? I came here to thank you for the links and I came across this post ...
Hopefully this law will not take much to be applied here in Sao Paulo, because no one deserves to spend on shopping and still have to pay parking.
Congratulations on the blog!
Hugs,
Drika

10 | Oswaldo

March 21st, 2008 at 10:53 pm

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The Draft Law on Free estacionemento malls was vetoed on February 8, 2008. Check out the link:

11 | Carlos

September 11th, 2008 at 3:32 pm

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Not only does the bill in Sao Paulo was vetoed by Mayor Kassab (which has this power and was correct in its decision - not, I will not vote for Kassab), as the Law of the State of Rio de Janeiro, which exists even lost their effects in the courts for being unconstitutional.

Staff, only the Union National Congress (House of Representatives = + Senate) can create a law requiring an establishment not to charge for their services, any service.

12 | Marcelo Galvani

September 11th, 2008 at 6:14 pm

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Carlos, thanks for the update.

13 | Paul

May 14th, 2009 at 3:19 pm

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If you observe the information of the link, this bill was vetoed by Mayor Kassab, on grounds of unconstitutionality, ie it is only the President of Brazil (Union) to make this law!
Municipalities, cities and states have no power to legislate on this.

14 | Rafael Sanchez

June 2nd, 2009 at 11:32 am

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Good morning!
Thanks for the reply, but was last in South Shopping Plaza and questioned about this Act and "laughed" in my face. I demanded the presence of responsible and after much waiting, they said they would not be possible. I threatened to call the police and even then ... nothing. They said it is only a draft law Liguie w / 190 and nothing can be done ... I decided to pay and demanded invoice. I searched the Internet and found the Law 454/07 which came to be enacted on 6/21/07 and was vetoed by Mayor Kassab worthy.

I find this law in 1209/04 because I felt like a complete idiot ...
If confirmed, I will demand my money back and twice (according to CDC).
And I will disclose to the maximum, because "they" need to know that people have rights and should be respected.

ABC.

Rafael Sanchez

16 | Rodrigo Grazioli

November 26th, 2009 at 2:12 am

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Dear friends, fresh news awaits us ... NOW IS THE LAW .... in Sao Paulo (state), in the malls do not pay more parking after spending less than 10x the amount to be paid ... Law No. 13819 OF 23 NOVEMBER 2009. If you still have doubts, please visit http://www.al.sp.gov.br/repositorio/legislacao/lei/2009/lei 20n.13.819%,% 20and% 2023.11.2009.htm
Legal hugs and greetings to the dear friends!

17 | Alessandro

July 15th, 2010 at 11:04 am

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"Finally a good law of the Municipality of São Paulo.
The law of free parking in malls and other establishments is already applied.
Gratuity Parking - State Law No. 1209/2004 ... "(sic).

I wonder how a state law may transact in the House of Councillors, not in the Legislative Assembly ...

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